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| 201 | One year on in category Website General The LTSVplus website is one year old this weekend so this seems a suitable time to review progress so far. Looking back at the pre-2005 version of this website (which still languishes at www.ltsv.com), it seems that the switch to a database-driven site was very much the right thing to do. The amount of information contained, and the felxibility with which it can be viewed, makes the old site pretty poor by comparison. Due to a generous development and testing period, and the feedback of several contributors, the initial design seems to be coping well with continued use, and most of the changes since have been incremental rather than fundamental. Apart from the addition of ever more fleetdata and photographs, enhancements have included the addition of graphic icons for many of the more common vehicle types, and improved visibility of visitors own sightings. The only real problem occured in July when my host suffered a server failure and a couple of months worth of additions and contributions were lost. Most of these were able to be re-entered and my own back-up procedures have since been improved. Looking at the size of the web site, the stats are there for all to see (1500+ pictures, 7000+ vehicles). What may be interesting to some is that the pages themselves only take up 356KB of disk space. This is because they only contain programming code that gathers information from the database or displays pictures. The 1550 pictures so far posted take up 140MB. With my current web hosting package (costing £25 per year) it looks like I have space for a further 2000 pictures before an upgrade is needed (despite the recent increase in image size)! The database, which contains all the forum posts, news stories, sightings and member details as well as the main vehicle data, accounts for just 3MB. Given the subject matter, this site was never intended for a huge audience and I therefore don't delve into the statistics much. However, looking at the last month, my host reports that the number of unique visitors per day varies from a low of 41 to just over 100. The number of pages served per day ranges from 428 to 2116. Looking at the actual site, it is clear that the number of people actually contributing information and comments on a regular basis is very low, perhaps 4 or 5 out of the 50 registered visitors supplying the bulk of the content. Following the addition of fleet data in two new categories recently (hires and other Companies), the next development is likely to be the adddition of a pocket-sized fleetlist for use when out and about. It seems likely that I will not bother trying to detail the history of the locations listed on the web site as many (particularly bus garages) are covered elsewhere. There may however be some articles on where to see SVs, and how to identify them! The only other long-outstanding task is to add more of the allocation histories for the older vehicles. It would be useful to know how much interest there would be in this. One final development to mention is the possibility of making the web site available on CD-ROM. I have found some software that can perform the web server function required to view PHP files, and this means that I could make CD-ROMs with the entire site on them. This would be fully functional except that adding new data will not be possible. It will also obviously be a snap-shot of the site at a given date, but it may be useful to allow users to browse at leisure rather than using on-line time. I will post more details soon but let me know if you might be interested in this. |
30/09/2006 | Thomas Young |
| 202 | Essex/London Fire Brigade Bedford QL in category Other Companies I am trying to find photographs or any information on Essex Fire Brigade Breakdown Lorry GYR417 which spent much of its life at Ilford. It may also have spent some time at Barking Workshops. When Ilford became London Fire Brigade, I think it was transferred to Ruislip Workshops. I believe Essex Fire Brigade also had a similar Vehicle GYR 419 at Colchester Workshops. This information is required for modelling purposes. Thank You. |
21/09/2006 | Steve |
| 203 | Sept 6/7th Sightings Log in category Social In the next few days a sightings log, of in excess of 200 SVs for the 6th/7th Sept will appear. This is for my most recent trip to London, where I joined up with Tom Young & Steve Howard for a 'session'. My grateful thanks go to them both, for their company, & planning of a super trip. Of the 35hours I was off the coach, 5 were spent asleep & nearly all the rest on a mega blitz around north, west & central London. Thanks Guys ! |
09/09/2006 | John Lloyd-Martin |
| 204 | 5728F in category Central Fleet Leased Vehicles Transit open lorry 5728F is lettered 'Transport for London' on the cab door instead of either Metronet or Tube Lines. Anyone know why? |
08/08/2006 | Kim Rennie |
| 205 | First London SV numbering in category Bus Company Vehicles Does anyone have a full list of the numbers allocated to First SVs? I have just noticed that they appear to have two 71s (EX03MHN and KD03XPL)! |
04/07/2006 | Thomas Young |
| 206 | Arriva LN Crew Ferry numbers in category Bus Company Vehicles A list of these may or may not appear in the next TLB, depending on space. However, all of the numbers from 1 to 43 have now been reported except for 10, 16, 17, 19 and 21. In addition at least 3, 4, 8, 32 and 39 have been used twice, although not at the same time. |
04/07/2006 | Thomas Young |
| 207 | Checking what went TGM to Travel London in category Bus Company Vehicles Following some recent sightings, I have marked up a few more vehicles that transferred from TGM to Travel London, as well as adding a new one for the coaching remains of TGM (don't ask me how that qualifies as an LTSV!). However, I still have 7 other TGM SVs listed. Has anyone seen any of these recently? K814CTF, M541XFY, M544XFY, N366HLA, P338UGH, T575FFC, T576FFC |
04/07/2006 | Thomas Young |
| 208 | Stagecoach in London in category Bus Company Vehicles With Stagecoach in London now sold it may be prudent for any photographers to finalise outstanding photos before the fleet is repainted/re-named etc |
24/06/2006 | Ray |
| 209 | What is Database Admin? in category Website Guidance and Questions Some of you may have seen this as being the last change to edited vehicles. The explanation is related to my 'brilliant' scheme of spacing the ID numbers allocated to SV records so that subsequent additions could be fitted in while retaining the registration order. This has almost completely failed! It seems that every newly reported vehicle falls where this is no gap in the IDs. I then need to shuffle several vehicles on either side, taking care to include any picture, sighting or allocation records with them. All very tedious! There is a way around this. Just give every SV a sequential ID as it is added. I am currently working on how best to sort records with this in place. The other benefit is that it would allow many more records to be added. Hires and Streets vehicles have been mentioned before. Other companies such as Almex could also go in, perhaps even the Dial-a-Ride minibuses! |
17/06/2006 | Thomas Young |
| 210 | Possible Potential SVs in category Hires, Loans and Unknowns Back in November last year, I posted a Forum entry under 'Hires & Loans', regarding the reporting of vehicles which may, or may not be SVs. It was suggested that an initial Forum entry be posted to see what transpired. It now seems there could be many such Forum entries. One of the vehicles which prompted me to ask was VO51WDW, which I saw in Oct '05, & which is still being seen at Aldgate, as evidenced by its photo there, being posted 3rd June. The photo is not yet linked to a vehicle record, suggesting that its status is still unclear. I always log 'potential' SVs, as I am sure do all other regular contributors. Two such I have noted have been KJ03DXF & KD05PGX, seen at Acton in Feb & March of this year respectively, & both now, very recently having entries in their own right. Is there some means by which any such vehicle records can be created within a listing of say 'Potentials', which could then be converted to full status as further info comes to light ? It would mean that all such information was held centrally, & available to all us 'listers' ! I know that 'Hires' are also being considered for recording - can the two even be lumped into one grouping ? Any one else, Tom especially, any thoughts on the subject ? John, in Leeds. |
04/06/2006 | John Lloyd-Martin |
| 211 | Correction to fleet data in category Central Fleet Leased Vehicles Its not just LUL that makes mistakes with its SV numbers! I had added the recent Ford Transit Minibus at Finchley as 5705F. A query from a member prompted me to look again at the picture. It should have been 5782F! I have already updated the database and photo/sightings data. Sorry :-( |
25/03/2006 | Thomas Young |
| 212 | London Central list in category Bus Company Vehicles There are some gaps in information which are partly filled as follows. L876MVX - Vauxhall 1699cc White diesel M432BGP - Vauxhall 1998cc Red petrol M755CGT - Vauxhall 1686cc Red diesel - for export! N875KGN - Vauxhall 1700cc Red diesel R962CMV - Vauxhall 1799cc Blue petrol. The exact make is not on the website but you can get some info (as above) from www.vehiclelicence.gov.uk Ray |
25/03/2006 | Ray |
| 213 | R-type sweepers. Is this one? in category Central Fleet Miscellaneous Vehicles An interesting message from the Ipswich Transport Museum relates to a Lacre sweeper they own. This was reportedly new to Tilling before passing to Eastern Counties. The thing is, it carried reg YL6093, which we have listed as being on R38. R38 was at TC (Croydon) which was a Tilling garage. Perhaps someone can shed some light. The ITM's excellent website has a picture. http://www.ipswichtransportmuseum.co.uk/yl6093.htm. Is this what R-types looked like? On the subject of sweepers, I have a short article on their uses in the 1970s that I keep forgetting to post. Apologies to the author concerned. |
25/03/2006 | Thomas Young |
| 214 | 5664F Dual Personality? in category Central Fleet Leased Vehicles Here is one for the experts - Steve Howard maybe? On the database 5664F is clearly listed as KC04YGM - a red LBSL, Transit 300, mwb, mid-height, 9 seat Minibus - & is photographed as such! On Wednesday 23rd March 2006, a blue & white, Metronet BCV, 85 T280, low-roof Transit left Acton Works & was photographed by myself. The full side-on shot clearly shows the serial 5664F! The picture is very good quality - on a 9 megapixel camera, I would hope so - and the details 85 T280 are also very clear. Unfortunately I did not record the registration as I was probably busy lining up another shot. Can anyone suggest what this latter vehicle should be? I note from the db, that KC04YJV fits the bill & has no serial shown. Any suggestions welcomed. John L-M (back in Leeds) |
24/03/2006 | John Lloyd-Martin |
| 215 | Metrobus SVs in category Bus Company Vehicles For those who may not have found it, I came across this today - www.metrobus.co.uk/fleet.php - which apart from listing the full bus fleet, also lists their SVs with allocations. May help someone ! John in Leeds |
15/03/2006 | John Lloyd-Martin |
| 216 | 2391L in category Central Fleet Owned Vehicles 2391L - NYR391Y. Got to www.ccmv.fotopic.net/p25956146.html to find a shot of this vehicle working for First at Gosport. Just found it! |
09/03/2006 | Damon |
| 217 | Transit Buses KD55MHA & LY05YCO in category Hires, Loans and Unknowns KD55MHA (Silver) first seen at North Greenwich Station (round the back) alongside white bus LY05YCO on 20/1/2006. The silver one (KD55MHA) was running around Eltham today (8/3/06) and the reg seems to fall in amongst other KD55s. Any offers? KD is a 1998 diesel while LY is a 2402 diesel. |
08/03/2006 | Ray |
| 218 | Progress to date in category Website General Hello all. I am very pleased with most aspects of this site, particularly the fact that we have already logged over 4000 sightings. There are plenty of new and old photos still to come, and the forum is picking up. I just wish I had more time to implement some of the further ideas that have been suggested. Special kudos (sorry, no prizes) will go to the reporter of the first confirmed 6000+ numbered or 06 registered SV. |
08/03/2006 | Thomas Young |
| 219 | Stagecoach SVs on web site in category Bus Company Vehicles Ray entered a note about Stagecoach SVs, with the info apparently taken from their web site. I haven't had a look at this but some of the details appear to be wrong. M809SYL probably refers to M809YSL, while M938SYN could mean M938WSN. I should also mention that I do not include cars such as company director's cars (unless of course they have a logo on!). As the recent picture of the Metrobus Ford Galaxy shows that these are lettered, I will be adding them shortly. Unmarked vans are fair game if they are confirmed as SVs. |
06/03/2006 | Thomas Young |
| 220 | Logging sightings - bit of a drag in category Website Guidance and Questions I have today had to do my first bulk manual inputting of sightings, and I now realise it is a bit of a drag doing them one at a time. So, thanks again to those who have endured the process and pushed our total up to almost 4000. There may be a way to improve the design, and I am open to suggestions. |
04/03/2006 | Thomas Young |
| 221 | Arriva Minibus M160 RBH in category Bus Company Vehicles Now used as a rest room apparently. Often parked up at Eltham Bus Station. Rear window sheeted over and some windows blacked out. Will this now be classed as SV? |
03/03/2006 | Ray |
| 222 | LT Museum Depot Open Weekend 4th & 5th March in category Events The Museum Depot open weekend this week has the theme of LT in miniature. However, with the District and Piccadilly lines suspended east of Acton Town on both days, it may be a bit trickier than usual to get to! |
02/03/2006 | Thomas Young |
| 223 | Sighting Locations in category Website Guidance and Questions Hi, May I offer a suggestion re recording sighting locations ? As an 'out of towner' it is handy to use say all 2005 sightings, & sort alphabetically by location, so as to try & establish what potentially might be seen where on a visit. That will produce 'Anytown', 'near Anytown' and 'passing Anytown at 5pm', in three entirely different places on a lengthy list. If I suggested that these were entered with the MAIN location first, ie 'Anytown - near' and 'Anytown - passing at 5pm', it would produce a better order, & allow any of us who chooses, to obtain a more meaningful picture of what is seen where. (ie all Anytowns appear together.) It is only a suggestion - shoot me down if you wish! Regards from Leeds, John L-M |
13/02/2006 | John Lloyd-Martin |
| 224 | 3001L in category Central Fleet Leased Vehicles Hi, I'm new to the site and have just had a general look round to try and familiarise myself. A good few years ago I came across former LT service vehicle 3001L in use with a builder in Bridport, Dorset. It was still in grey livery complete with fleetnumber. I have a photograph of it somewhere and if anyone is interested in it I will try and find it. I hope to visit the site frequently and will help wherever possible. Chris Platt. |
13/02/2006 | Christopher Platt |
| 225 | Transport Fair at Staines, Sat 11th Feb in category Events Dave Bosher is running a Transport Fair at Hythe Centre, Thorpe Road, Staines on Sat 11th Feb from 10.30. A vintage bus service 441C will operate half hourly from Staines station. Collections of service vehicle photos will be on sale. |
05/02/2006 | Thomas Young |
| 226 | Differences between 1456MR and 1457MR in category Central Fleet Owned Vehicles As you may have seen from Neil Fraser's comments against the picture of '1457MR' on this site, there is some confusion over the later identities of the two Militant master breakdown tenders. I have looked at several pictures and, apart from the different offside mirrors, I noticed that at least one of the pair had its headboard lettering changed to 'LTB Urgent' at some point. Could anyone who has pictures of these vehicles please check which Militant carried this? |
01/02/2006 | Thomas Young |
| 227 | Taxi at Canada Water in category Hires, Loans and Unknowns There is often a taxi in the LTB reserved spot at Canada Water. On 20/01/2006 the one in use was registered H175 YUL and it carried an 'official' notice in the window. Who are these owned by? |
22/01/2006 | Ray |
| 228 | Mercedes-Benz Recovery Truck - L100JMH in category Hires, Loans and Unknowns Perhaps someone could help me with this, please. On my last trip to London on 15th November '05, I saw what might have been this SV parked up near Hyde Park Corner, in the centre of the road. I rather dismissed it as apart from being all red, it had no other markings. From the pictures it appeared to gain its London Buses scheme in December. I was passing the location on a coach, & could not get any registration. In view of it being photographed at Victoria & Park Lane, has anyone seen this vehicle in this location previously, & therefore is it likely this was the vehicle I saw, please? My Thanks in Advance - John L-M in Leeds |
04/01/2006 | John Lloyd-Martin |
| 229 | Christmas Greetings to All in category Social Can I wish everyone on here a peaceful & Very Happy Christmas, & a Happy and prosperous New Year for 2006. John L-M, in Leeds |
24/12/2005 | John Lloyd-Martin |
| 230 | Thank you to sightings loggers! in category Website General I'd like to say a big thank you to everyone who has logged their sightings here since October. There are currently 1866 sightings recorded and these will be very useful in determining vehicle allocations. |
08/12/2005 | Thomas Young |
| 231 | Vauxhall van badging in category Vehicle Designs and Designations A correspondent recently mentioned an LBSL Vauxhall Movano badged as a 3500 and asked if this meant it was a 3.5. Observations of non-SVs has indicated that the higher figures (which are usually badged low on the vehicle side) are the weight, while the decimal figures (carried on the rear if at all) are the engine capacity. Not sure about Vauxhall Combo 1700s though.... |
01/12/2005 | Thomas Young |
| 232 | New Renault Kangoos with mixed-up numbers in category Central Fleet Leased Vehicles Seen at Acton works in late October, three new Renault Kangoo estates in white/blue carried fleetnumbers already claimed by Ford Transit minibuses. Until further reports are received, they will be listed here only. 5714 (YG55NXO), 5715 (YG55NXR) and 5716 (YK55KZY). 5714 had a Metronet logo, the others had none. |
08/11/2005 | Thomas Young |
| 233 | Un-marked car at Aldgate in category Hires, Loans and Unknowns Seen at Aldgate Bus Station on a number of occasions recently, VO51WDW is an un-lettered red Ford Focus hatchback. |
08/11/2005 | Thomas Young |
| 234 | How Do We Deal with Vehicles which may be Hired or May be New? in category Website Guidance and Questions The Aldgate vehicle situation poses a bit of a problem. On 6th October I noted several vehicles in different locations, which may or may not, have been SVs Should they be reported or not? If so where, & how ? |
08/11/2005 | John Lloyd-Martin |
| 235 | Transit vans gaining side windows in category Central Fleet Leased Vehicles Looking through some recent photographs it appears that some Ford Transit vans have gained additional side windows some time after entering service. 5347F has been illustrated twice on this site but now has an extra offside window (picture to be added soon), while 5372F (which has been illustrated with an offside window) has appeared in an older picture without one! |
30/10/2005 | Thomas Young |
| 236 | Canterbury Models E83W in category Models Wanted....An unmade Canterbury Miniature Commercials Fordson E83W kit. Preferably a van, but any other variant would do. Either White metal or Resin version would do. |
26/10/2005 | Steve |
| 237 | Can I put sighting info as a picture comment? in category Website Guidance and Questions I noticed that one member has added sighting information into the picture comments section. While there is no problem with doing this it would be preferable if these could be added to the sightings section. That way all the sightings for a given vehicle will be visible without having to look at each picture. It will also make the determining of allocations easier. |
15/10/2005 | Thomas Young |
| 238 | Not all Arriva SVs are SVs! in category Hires, Loans and Unknowns A member has reported a sighting of an Arriva Ford Transit tipper working on repairs to Vauxhall Bus Station. As he correctly noted, this was probably a member of the Arriva Rentals fleet. Such vehicles will not be included on this site, unless they are on hire to a bus company, at which point things could get confusing! Also not included as such are vehicle contract maintenance vans. Having said that, the Red Arrow base at Waterloo seems to have a permanent allocation of several 'evobus' vans. Feel free to use the forum to post info on such vehicles. |
12/10/2005 | Thomas Young |
| 239 | LOTS ATS at Harrow Leisure Centre Sat 29th October in category Events Wots LOTS ATS? The Autumn Transport Spectacular organised every year by the London Omnibus Traction Society. This years ATS will be on Saturday 29th October (10.30 to 3.30) at the Harrow Leisure Centre, Christchurch Avenue, Wealdstone. See the LOTS web site (www.lots.org.uk) for more info and travel info. If anyone would like to meet up, either at the ATS or perhaps afterwards, please get in touch. |
12/10/2005 | Thomas Young |
| 240 | Bedford CAs 967 977 and 989B in category Central Fleet Owned Vehicles These Bedford Ambulances and Route Survey Van I believe, had bodies By Martin-Walter, I think all had standard Bedford rear doors, with a lift-up hatchback type door above them. Did the upper doors have windows? Information required for modelling purposes. Thanks |
10/10/2005 | Steve |
| 241 | Hired Transit at Aldgate in category Hires, Loans and Unknowns Noted at Aldagte Bus Station, late afternoon 6th October 2005. White low-roof Ford Transit van regn LN05XRK. Showed Ford Rentals & Dagenham Motors with their address & phone details on front & rear doors. Had small apparently magnetic signs on side(s?) towards the rear with red Buses roundel & 'Maintaining bus infrastructure' logo |
10/10/2005 | John Lloyd-Martin |
| 242 | How can I find which vehicles carried a particular trade plate number? in category Website Guidance and Questions As with pre-1939 numbers, a searchable index of trade plates is planned to be included on this site but has not yet been developed. Until then, there is an article that lists all known SV trade plates both in reg and fleet number orders. |
29/09/2005 | Thomas Young |
| 243 | I want to see a list of pre-1939 numbers in category Website Guidance and Questions At present this is not possible. Vehicles with pre-1939 numbers that were NOT given new numbers are listed after the main numbered series. Renumbered vehicles appear under their new numbers with a note to indicate the previous number. It is planned to add a function that will list all pre-1939 numbers in one place and I will add a reply to this post when this has been created. |
27/09/2005 | Thomas Young |
| 244 | On the pictures index, some SVs appear in the wrong era in category Website Guidance and Questions This is not technically true. The era refers to when the picture was taken, not when the vehicle was active. Therefore preserved, former or particularly long-lived SVs may appear under a later era than their principle time of service with LT. This could be changed if users feel it would be useful, but each picture can only be associated with one era. |
24/09/2005 | Thomas Young |
| 245 | On the pictures index, some pictures appear more than once in category Website Guidance and Questions This is intentional and results from a desire to be able to handle pictures with more than one subject. For example, a photo may show van 1234F, with car 2345F in the background. The thumbnail for the picture will appear under each number, although both will take you to the same place. The benefit of doing this is that, if you then look at the details of 2345F, all pictures will appear even if this is not the main subject of the photo. |
07/09/2005 | Thomas Young |
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