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| Picture of TV27 There are a few SV pictures on the LTM website. Here is one of Trojan Van TV27. http://www.ltmcollection.org/photos/photo/photo.html?design=abc&IXsearch=van&IXsummary=results/results&_IXSR_=s_NzUc30N7I&_IXMAXHITS_=1&_IXFIRST_=17 Note: Posting edited by Thomas Young, 05/02/08, 09:32. | Tue 05/02/2008, 09:31 |
| Another DaR for ETB? Seen at Lewisham Bus Station on 30/1/08 was MB Sprinter Minibus T466JLD, still lettered as North London Dial-a-Ride D158 but in use with East Thames Buses. Although it had driver under instruction notices in the windows it appeared to be doing the usual crew ferry duties. | Sat 02/02/2008, 21:16 |
| Fire Engine 1012B Thanks to John Harrington for sending me this link (and some other nice pictures). It is a rare colour view of Aldenham-based Bedford Fire Engine 1012B, taken from a 1965 movie called The Early Bird. No other details but 1012B was sold in 1964. http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_23114-Bedford-ML-Type.html | Sat 02/02/2008, 20:40 |
| SV models and magazine articles Chris Batten has sent me pictures of some of his SV conversions and these will be added shortly. They are also included in an article on 'LT related conversions' that will appear in the March 2008 issue of Model Collector. | Sat 02/02/2008, 20:36 |
| More SVs on the web Check out Neil Fraser's excellent photopic sites for assorted service vehicle pictures. http://aec.fotopic.net/ http://ccmv.fotopic.net/ Recommended. | Wed 09/01/2008, 14:28 |
| Ian's Bus Stop You may wish to visit Ian's Bus Stop this week (8/1/08)who has a couple of pics of an ''interesting'' vehicle! | Tue 08/01/2008, 16:30 |
| 2007 Christmas Greetings A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to Tom, Ming, and Alanna. Also to all of you involved in the never ending search for the elusive SV. Hopefully I'll get to meet the few remaining members I have yet to see and renew acquaintances with the others through 2008. My best wishes to you all! Ray | Mon 24/12/2007, 18:39 |
| German HO Scale Models For the modellers amongst us, you may care to have a look at the website for Rietze models www.rietze.de which has some Transit vans which I am sure are ready for re-decorating etc. | Sun 23/12/2007, 12:52 |
| how do you up load a picture hi people i am new on here and i wanted to share a few pictures of fire engines that i have taken recently but i am having troble uploading or even finding out how to upload a picture please can some one advice me on this please all the best | Thu 06/12/2007, 21:31 |
| LBSL VW Caddy Van Seen in the distance just now was a VW Caddy van in full LBSL red with chevrons and logos (rather like the Transporter vans 6012VW etc). It was heading east along Embankment. One to look out for. | Tue 04/12/2007, 14:03 |
| 1278LD lives, but is for sale An interesting e-mail from James Fairchild of the Transport Yorkshire Preservation Group states that Leyland Titan Railway Breakdown Tender 1278LD is for sale. He says 'Vehicle described as semi derelict, partially stripped, and wanting major body restoration, no V5, asking price £1,500. Location Worksop (border of South Yorkshire/Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire).' It is odd that there don't seem to be any photographs of this vehicle around. If you really want more information, James can be contacted at jamesfairchild 'at' yahoo.com. | Sun 02/12/2007, 09:06 |
| More from EFE While flicking through Model Collector Magazine in WHS this morning I noticed that EFE are producing a model of Thames Trader 1189F. Due out next month - put it on your Christmas list. | Sun 04/11/2007, 13:45 |
| BX02WYO This Vauxhall does not appear on the DVLA wesbite. Any clues? | Tue 30/10/2007, 17:20 |
| London Fire Brigade GS bus Does anyone have a photograph of GS24 (MXX324) during its time with the LFB (6/61 to 1/68)? | Thu 18/10/2007, 12:35 |
| DLR - Seco SV's From a passing Docklands Light Railway train, I noticed that Seco, who operate the DLR have a number of service vehicles at their Poplar depot. These included several vans and a black PCV with an LT style roundel on it. However, I see that Seco vehicles are not listed on here. This rather surprised me, as the DLR has always been shown on LT maps, and the vehicles used to carry LT syle signage. So, I was wondering, has anyone got any fleetlists/ photo's of DLR /Seco SV's? Did the DLR ever own any ex- LT service vehicles? Finally would anyone like to see these vehicles listed on this site? London spotter | Wed 10/10/2007, 20:01 |
| London Bus routes quiz number 2 Ruislip Station is served by routes E7, H13 and U1. Are there any other places reached by three local-area prefixed routes (excluding N- and X- routes)? | Thu 20/09/2007, 14:16 |
| New ERU fleet The new ERU fleet are scheduled to go ''on the run'' from 8th October 2007. | Wed 19/09/2007, 16:43 |
| East London Bus Group The site www.londonbusroutes.net show that the HQ for the East London Bus Group has moved to Charter House, 2A 450 High Road, Ilford, ID1 1UF. Does this mean that Clements Road has been vacated? | Sat 08/09/2007, 16:00 |
| 2524F loses its body Visible in the yard at Acton last week, Iveco SuperCargo dropside lorry 2524F has had its body removed and is a bare chassis (with cab). 2524F is presumably one of those due for replacement by the cascaded Volvo demountables, but the body is surely too long for these. Any ideas? Note; the pic linked is an old one. Note: Posting edited by Thomas Young, 03/09/07, 23:06. | Mon 03/09/2007, 23:04 |
| London Safety Camera Partnership SVs (5451-5455V?) I found a website which gives a little more information about the LSCP vans. G Print seem to do most of the livery and lettering on SVs, including Metronet and Tube Lines logos, etc. This work is outlined at http://www.g-print.co.uk/proj13.htm. They also do the yellow and blue striping for the LSCP vehicles. The page http://www.g-print.co.uk/proj12.htm suggests that a fleet of Vivaros was used and it is thought that these may be the unreported 5451V to 5455V. The page also illustrates the Transit box van LM55FJD which has been seen on LTSVplus here. The Vivaros were 'stripped' in June 2007, presumably accounting for the sighting of 5452V at Acton recently. The replacements are Ford Transits and the one illustrated (rather small pictures and obscured regs alas) has large police lettering on the front but also appears to have a normal SV fleetnumber. Interesting! | Fri 31/08/2007, 13:30 |
| 1/43rd scale Austin J4 van Recently available is a 1/43rd scale Austin J4 van circa 1965, by Prada Spain,produced to be sold with a magazine about vans, I have just finished one in L.T grey livery as 1338AS -1342AS. It is an excellent model and captures the shape realy well, versions I have seen so far are in wine company liveries and some have a roof rack fitted, all are left hand drive but easily changed. Most of those I have seen are pricey at around 20 to 25 pounds, but sometimes cheaper on ebay, got one for 12 pounds last wk, Don`t know how long it will be around or if it will be more easily available over here at a later date, but would recomend it to anyone interested in vans from this period. | Thu 30/08/2007, 21:45 |
| London Bus routes quiz number 1 How many London bus routes cross over themselves at a different level (e.g. on a bridge)? I was thinking initially of the RV1 at Waterloo Bridge, but there is also the 229/469/B11 at Abbey Wood Station, and the 85/265 at Roehampton Vale Asda. I'm sure there are others. Perhaps at Brent Cross? | Fri 03/08/2007, 23:11 |
| New Base Toys model Base Toys have a new range which includes a Thames Trader dopside lorry decked out as 1135F. It has a grey cab but a green body?!?!? It's numbered 1135F, has a tiny underlined red London Transport name on the cab doors, and correct reg number. It cost me £5.95 at the Eastbourne running day on Sunday. A nice model though - recommended. The older base toys can be grabbed at 3 for a tenner at rallies if like me you fancy slapping a bit of paint about. | Tue 24/07/2007, 00:30 |
| Matador 750P in print For those of you who admire Matadors and all things AEC as much as I do (no I didn't mean Spaniards chasing bulls) there's a very fine picture of 750P in Ian Allan's latest landscape format colour album. Check out page 13 of London Buses in colour 1965-1980. There's a lovely colour picture by Maurice Bateman of RT921 being rescued at Shepherd's Bush. Are you out there Maurice? Are there any more like this? | Sun 08/07/2007, 18:42 |
| Wildcards in selection criteria Just found out something new. I wanted to see all '07 regs begining with L. In the Reg box on the Fleet Data index page, I put in L%07. The percent sign works as the wildcard. However, it equates to any quantity of characters, including none. Therefore, this search would return (for example) KL07BUG, L107TOM and LR4507. Still, might be of use. Tom | Thu 05/07/2007, 22:56 |
| Transfers for 1:76 service vehicle models There will be a new article on the subject of modelling shortly. This post is intended to invite members to give tips on transfers for model SVs. Have you found some suitable alternative source (perhaps from the railway or aircraft modelling trade)? Do you have experience of making your own? Would you be interested in contributing to the production of some custom transfers? To start things rolling, when I was doing the 1:36 Ford Transits, I made a sheet of Tube Lines, Metronet, LUL etc and these were fine. However, for the red-based LBSL van, I used BR wagon numbers for the white fleetnumbers. For the orange squares, after experimenting, I resorted to spraying using a stencil carefully cut out of sticky-back plastic. Note: Posting edited by Thomas Young, 05/07/07, 22:49. | Thu 05/07/2007, 22:48 |
| LBSL Zafira 5566V This vehicle has very rarely been seen, and never photographed, plus it was not on the last official fleet list we received. However, it passed me today, near London Bridge, and it is plain red with no markings or lettering. Not sure if it has left the fleet, or is in some covert use. | Tue 03/07/2007, 09:34 |
| Tube Lines Transit 5967F I saw this today (21.6.07) in Margate, and have managed to get a picture. It is slightly more detailed than the one on this site, so please feel free to ask, and I'll send a copy. | Thu 21/06/2007, 23:13 |
| Who towed LT Country area buses? This is a question that I was asked today. Apart from 828J at Reigate from 1950, I can't find records of any tow trucks or breakdown tenders being allocated to country area garages. LCBS acquired some in 1972 but before the split, were vehicles sent out from central garages to attend? | Fri 08/06/2007, 21:29 |
| All-white Transit at Neasden An all-white (ie no skirt) Ford Transit van was seen at Neasden Depot today, reg something like LS07RGU. It is a mid-height crew van and has Tube Lines logos in the usual place. Can anyone confirm the reg or supply additional info? | Tue 29/05/2007, 22:58 |
| More site improvements The design of several pages has been changed today, the main aim being to make it easier to look at locations. I have also added the facility to log comments against locations. This could be used to give historical details, describe how to get to the location, or to give personal recollections of visits. The full list of changes is as follows: - Header (all pages): Now includes direct link to locations list - Locations list: Links to detail pages now also on location name - Locations detail page: Improved navigation, thumbnails of all pictures at location, and addition of user comments - Latest Updates page: Now includes location comments - Picture index page: Now groups pictures added on a given date. Table layout improved - Picture display page: Addition of link to location details and improved navigation Because all pictures will now have links to the locations as well as the subject vehicles, the total number of picture links has increased by over a thousand. As always, if you find any bugs or errors, or if you have any suggestions for further improvements, please get in touch. | Mon 28/05/2007, 00:22 |
| New Service Vehicle publication LOTS (London Omnibus Traction Society) have produced a second publication on the subject of service vehicles. This is their SUP24C, which lists the current service fleets of the various operators (bus and tube) in London. A bargain at just £2.50. For more details, take a look at www.lots.org.uk. I am told that some copies of SUP15B are also still available at £7.50 each. | Fri 25/05/2007, 22:21 |
| Some notes on small trailers Following the confusion over T64 and Txx at Acton, I have been looking at the small trailers in the fleet. What I can say is that T46, T57 and T58 are allocated to Lillie Bridge. These can just be seen from Gloucester Road, parked behind the three MB generator trucks. Hope this helps. And if anyone has seen T49, T55, T63, T69 or T75, I would be interested to hear from them. | Fri 25/05/2007, 21:56 |
| Ford Transit Designations It seems I got the Transit designations completely wrong. The current version (mouth-organ) is the Mk7, 2000 was Mk6, Smiley was Mk5. Mk3 and Mk4 were almost identical, while the Mk1 and Mk2 are as per my article. I will redraft this shortly but I was wondering if anyone thinks it worthwhile to add the designations to the database records. | Fri 25/05/2007, 21:54 |
| Yes, the sightings log has just increased by over 800! I uploaded my early sightings, although these actually cover the period 1982 to 2002! Not much detail on locations etc, but at least I get a lot more green ticks now. :-) | Sun 13/05/2007, 22:34 |
| East London Bus Group inc S/vs East London Bus Group have an updated fleet allocation list for their Period 13, commencing 2nd April '07, which shows their current Ancillary Vehicles, including S/vs. Their website is still www.stagecoachbus.com/london/ Picking 'News' from the top navigation bar, will take you to the correct place. Some will find this of interest. John, in Leeds | Mon 16/04/2007, 21:29 |
| Tense in picture captions This may be trivial but I have just realised that I switch from present to past tense frequently when writing the captions to photographs. Is it better to say '9999F was allocated to Tube Lines' because this web site will hopefully still be around after such a statement is no longer true? Or does '9999F is allocated to Tube Lines' record the facts at the time? I dunno. Let me know if you have a preference! | Sun 25/03/2007, 13:07 |
| Registrations starting with K It is interesting to note the KJ07xxx series now being used for main fleet service vehicles as it seems that the majority of deliveries since the new registration format begun have started with K. The actual identifiers have usually been in quite distince ranges (eg KJ03 used DRV to DZA while KJ53 used UMC to URW). However, the KD56 and KG56 ranges do overlap. To keep us on our toes, we therefore have KD56RDO and KG56RDO, and both are identical vehicles apart from the lettering! | Sat 24/03/2007, 22:45 |
| AEC Regals 4RF4 1465W - 1468W I am trying to model one of the BEA Coachrs converted to a Uniform Issue Store in 1967. However, I have found it difficult to find any detail of the rear conversion. Has anyone got a good photo and were they all the same ? On the LT Museum site there is a photo showing loading of uniforms through what appears to be a new door in the rear by means of a loading ramp but the position suggest that the rear lights would have had to have been moved ? | Sun 04/03/2007, 12:42 |
| Not actually 7510 vehicles listed! I have just been thinking about the total number of vehicles listed on this site. Although the index pages currently show a figure of 7510 this does include 329 place-holders, where fleetnumbers were not issued or not reported. There are also a number of vehicles that appear twice, mainly CDS or LCBS vehicles that later passed to bus companies. | Sun 04/02/2007, 10:00 |
| New Mercedes lorry The new vehicle WX56GZP has now moved to the railway side of the lorry park and is carrying number 2591 and Tube Lines lettering. | Fri 26/01/2007, 21:20 |
| Are you interested in London Fire Brigade vehicles? I work fairly close to the Southwark training centre of the London Fire Brigade and sometimes see their vehicles in the area. As well as fire engines there are quite a few vans and cars, and also the chunky 'New Dimension' demountables. Every vehicle carries a fleetnumber with a class prefix, and most have a plate that shows the allocation. This is sounding somewhat familiar! Anyway, I went browsing the web and found a few sites on the subject but none that quite hit the mark. Most were primarily pictorial and made looking up particular details difficult, while a couple featured fleet lists but these were either in allocation or registration order, and were not quite up to date. There was very little about the support vehicles, or the earlier fleet, and none of the sites had any interactivity. Therefore I was tinkering with the idea of covering the LFB fleet with an extension of my own web site, it being LTSV 'plus' after all! This could have a similar mix of customisable fleetlists (hopefully with some historical info), categorisable pictures, and user sightings and notes. What I would like to know is whether there is any interest in this idea from our community, or whether there is already a web site or forum somewhere that does it all. You can either reply to this posting or e-mail me as usual. For the time being though, if you have any LFB sightings or pictures, or happen to chance upon any while looking for service vehicles, I would be interested to hear from you. As an aside, there is also an Ambulance HQ nearby at Waterloo, again with some interesting vehicles all of which also carry fleetnumbers! | Wed 03/01/2007, 21:06 |
| A Happy Christmas to All With every good wish for a healthy & happy 2007 too ! John in Leeds | Sun 24/12/2006, 12:36 |
| Pole Carrier for sale Advertised in the Cobham Bus Museum (Winter 2006) is an ex LT AEC Mercury Pole Carrier used to dismantle Trolleybus system. Dry Stored for past 9 years. For more information, Serious enquirers only telephone 07949 516399 After 7PM. No time wasters please. | Fri 15/12/2006, 12:35 |
| Metrobus Fleet list Metrobus is another company that helpfully posts a fleet list on the internet that includes service vehicles. This is at www.metrobus.co.uk/fleet.php. Note: Posting edited by Thomas Young, 10/12/06, 21:35. | Sun 10/12/2006, 21:35 |
| Stagecoach Fleet List The East London Bus Group (formerly Stagecoach London) publishes a regular fleetlist which includes service vehicles. This can be currently be found at http://www.stagecoachbus.com/london/news2.html. | Sun 10/12/2006, 21:34 |
| Stagecoach (TL) Corsa van Latest Stagecoach/East London fleetlist shows two 56 reg Mondeo cars (TL & NS) but still no 56 reg (TL) Corsa van. Can this be confirmed as it was origanally reported as unmarked? | Sun 10/12/2006, 16:22 |
| 5535f I saw this car on the back of a truck going along the M4 last Friday (1st). It was one of those flat bed trucks with three cars tied on hopefully securely. I would asume it was scrapped but at 60mph there was not a lot of time to inspect for damage. GE | Mon 04/12/2006, 14:57 |
| AEC Regal 1468W for sale Thanks to Neil for spotting this. If you have a couple of grand going spare and fancy owning a very distinctive ex-service vehicle, take a look at http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D270057836098%26fvi%3D1&item=270057836098&rd=1. The sale end date is 1st December so be quick! | Mon 27/11/2006, 23:22 |
| New vehicles at Acton Seen in the staff car park at Acton Works this week were four new Toyota Prius car in Streets livery (white with orange band) and one 56 reg Kangoo in LUL livery. Does anyone have any positive IDs on these? | Mon 20/11/2006, 21:21 |
| How to post web links in the forum. A couple of people have been adding web addresses to forum postings which is fine. Links to anything of relevant interest are always welcome, and if I see them, I will go in and turn them into links. However, if you want to make your own links, here's how. Type <a href= then paste in the address you want. Then type > followed by what you want the link to actually say (this can be anything). Finally, type </a>. As an example, if you type <a href=http://www.ltsvplus.com/index.php>banana skins</a>, you will get banana skins Or you could just let me convert them...! And to insert line breaks, just type <br>. Note: Posting edited by Thomas Young, 18/11/06, 19:17. | Sat 18/11/2006, 19:10 |
| 1/76th scale London Service Vehicles If anyone is a 1/76th scale bus & sv collector, then this link may be of interest. http://www.modelenium.co.uk/models/London-Transport-Set-NEW--LT1004.aspx That is the full page address, which can be accessed through the Modelenium site. Alternatively a Google search on the set number LT1004 should find other options. | Fri 17/11/2006, 10:20 |
| LUL Transit Luton 4958F A picture of this will be posted in the next few days which seems to show the rear reg as T190TPP. I certainly recall that my sightings of this from passing trains at Acton did not tally with the official list but I now cannot work out which was which! The DVLA website seems to go with T180TPP as per CDS, T190TPP being yellow and licenced several months earlier. For now I have changed the database entry to read T190TPP but I am open to offers.... Did anyone ever see this vehicle from the front? | Sun 12/11/2006, 16:11 |
| ERU allocations Each of the ERu depots (Acton, Camden, Tottenham and Vauxhall) should presumably have one Volvo and one Merc truck allocated, with the fifth Volvo spare at Acton. We currently have the Mercs spread like this but the Volvos are listed as three at Camden and one at Vauxhall. Some regional sightings of these would be helpful, and don't forget to record the body number if possible! The numbers are low down towards the front of the offside only, as seen on 2570V. | Thu 09/11/2006, 21:39 |
| Help needed with LBSL disposals The following red vehicles have not been reported for several months and will be marked as withdrawn unless anyone can say otherwise. 4947VW VW Transporter 5040F Transit Info Point 5059B Astra Estate 5083-5086V and 5088V Movano Vans 5205-5211V Movano Vans 5298-5303F Transit Vans 5339/5340F Transit Vans Movano 5087V is soldiering on, as are most of the 5287-5297F Focuses, while Astra Estate 5328V has only been reported twice. The Honda motorbikes are thought to have gone by 2005. | Thu 09/11/2006, 21:32 |
| Seeking pictures of some recent vehicles If anyone has photographs of the following vehicles I would be very interested in seeing them: 2539M K387SLB MB 410D Dropside Truck 2545M K396SLB MB 410D Dropside Truck ---Now Got--- 2569V S269KRX Volvo FL6 ERU Demountable ---Now Got--- 2583M LT02XLM MB Econic Dustcart ---Now Got--- 2584M LL02LCT MB 311 Mobile Generator 5328V LK02KKN Vauxhall Astra Estate (Red) ---Now Got--- 5506I KE03KFF Iveco Daily Van 5566V LT53GCY Vauxhall Zafira Estate (Red) ---Now Got--- 5674VW RE05DUH VW Transporter Van (Red) ---Now Got--- 5676VW RA54HXT VW Transporter Van (Red) ---Now Got--- 5691F KC54LCW Ford Transit Connect Van (Red) ---Now Got--- 5731-5735M BJ05MV- MB Sprinter Crew Van ---Now Got--- 5769F KF05MHN Ford Transit Connect Tourneo (Red) 5789F KA05FBV Ford Transit Connect Tourneo ---Now Got--- 5800M BN55DXS MB Sprinter Van (Red) Note: Posting edited by Thomas Young, 02/11/06, 01:21. Note: Posting edited by Thomas Young, 05/11/06, 22:09. Note: Posting edited by Thomas Young, 27/01/08, 16:19. | Sat 30/09/2006, 20:29 |
| One year on. The LTSVplus website is one year old this weekend so this seems a suitable time to review progress so far. Looking back at the pre-2005 version of this website (which still languishes at www.ltsv.com), it seems that the switch to a database-driven site was very much the right thing to do. The amount of information contained, and the felxibility with which it can be viewed, makes the old site pretty poor by comparison. Due to a generous development and testing period, and the feedback of several contributors, the initial design seems to be coping well with continued use, and most of the changes since have been incremental rather than fundamental. Apart from the addition of ever more fleetdata and photographs, enhancements have included the addition of graphic icons for many of the more common vehicle types, and improved visibility of visitors own sightings. The only real problem occured in July when my host suffered a server failure and a couple of months worth of additions and contributions were lost. Most of these were able to be re-entered and my own back-up procedures have since been improved. Looking at the size of the web site, the stats are there for all to see (1500+ pictures, 7000+ vehicles). What may be interesting to some is that the pages themselves only take up 356KB of disk space. This is because they only contain programming code that gathers information from the database or displays pictures. The 1550 pictures so far posted take up 140MB. With my current web hosting package (costing £25 per year) it looks like I have space for a further 2000 pictures before an upgrade is needed (despite the recent increase in image size)! The database, which contains all the forum posts, news stories, sightings and member details as well as the main vehicle data, accounts for just 3MB. Given the subject matter, this site was never intended for a huge audience and I therefore don't delve into the statistics much. However, looking at the last month, my host reports that the number of unique visitors per day varies from a low of 41 to just over 100. The number of pages served per day ranges from 428 to 2116. Looking at the actual site, it is clear that the number of people actually contributing information and comments on a regular basis is very low, perhaps 4 or 5 out of the 50 registered visitors supplying the bulk of the content. Following the addition of fleet data in two new categories recently (hires and other Companies), the next development is likely to be the adddition of a pocket-sized fleetlist for use when out and about. It seems likely that I will not bother trying to detail the history of the locations listed on the web site as many (particularly bus garages) are covered elsewhere. There may however be some articles on where to see SVs, and how to identify them! The only other long-outstanding task is to add more of the allocation histories for the older vehicles. It would be useful to know how much interest there would be in this. One final development to mention is the possibility of making the web site available on CD-ROM. I have found some software that can perform the web server function required to view PHP files, and this means that I could make CD-ROMs with the entire site on them. This would be fully functional except that adding new data will not be possible. It will also obviously be a snap-shot of the site at a given date, but it may be useful to allow users to browse at leisure rather than using on-line time. I will post more details soon but let me know if you might be interested in this. | Sat 30/09/2006, 20:27 |
| Essex/London Fire Brigade Bedford QL I am trying to find photographs or any information on Essex Fire Brigade Breakdown Lorry GYR417 which spent much of its life at Ilford. It may also have spent some time at Barking Workshops. When Ilford became London Fire Brigade, I think it was transferred to Ruislip Workshops. I believe Essex Fire Brigde also had a similar Vehicle GYR 419 at Colchester Workshops. This information is required for modelling purposes. Thank You. | Thu 21/09/2006, 12:33 |
| Sept 6/7th Sightings Log In the next few days a sightings log, of in excess of 200 SVs for the 6th/7th Sept will appear. This is for my most recent trip to London, where I joined up with Tom Young & Steve Howard for a 'session'. My grateful thanks go to them both, for their company, & planning of a super trip. Of the 35hours I was off the coach, 5 were spent asleep & nearly all the rest on a mega blitz around north, west & central London. Thanks Guys ! | Sat 09/09/2006, 14:08 |
| X278VWT Noted entering Acton Works today (4/9/2006)- still in use? Note: Posting edited by Ray, 04/09/06, 20:08. | Mon 04/09/2006, 17:24 |
| 5728F Transit open lorry 5728F is lettered ''Transport for London'' on the cab door instead of either Metronet or Tube Lines. Anyone know why? | Tue 08/08/2006, 15:58 |
| Another LBSL Transporter! Having had a list from a contact, it seems there is a 12th VW Transporter, registration RA54HXP. The fleetnumber is not known but it should be active in West London. Any offers? Note: Posting edited by Thomas Young, 16/07/06, 20:17. | Sun 16/07/2006, 19:41 |
| Peugeot Boxer MW05AXM This white van with LBSL stickers and chevrons was at Victoria Coach Station in late June (pic from Damon to be published soon) and Aldgate on 13th July 2006. | Sun 16/07/2006, 19:11 |
| Superfast site Is it just me or does this site now perform at a superfast speed? Since sometime last week anything you click on seems to appear in a instant - pictures as well. Don't know what you've done Tom but well done! | Sun 16/07/2006, 00:51 |
| July 2006 Site Changes Together with the new icons, the sorting of the fleet lists has been changed. Sorting by fleetnumber will now actually sort by fleetnumber. Therefore, unless you select a sub-set, you may see a load of un-numbered vehicles, followed by a bunch of 1s, then 2s, and so on. The benefit of this is that bus company vehicles (such as those of Arriva, Metrobus, Metroline and Stagecoach) can now be sorted by fleetnumber. The only real drawback is that trailers, with their variable prefixes, will not be sorted in numerical order. For example, C21 will appear before YT19. As always, feedback and bug-reports would be appreciated. | Sun 09/07/2006, 20:55 |
| First London SV numbering Does anyone have a full list of the numbers allocated to First SVs? I have just noticed that they appear to have two 71s (EX03MHN and KD03XPL)! | Tue 04/07/2006, 21:33 |
| Arriva LN Crew Ferry numbers A list of these may or may not appear in the next TLB, depending on space. However, all of the numbers from 1 to 43 have now been reported except for 10, 16, 17, 19 and 21. In addition at least 3, 4, 8, 32 and 39 have been used twice, although not at the same time. | Tue 04/07/2006, 21:32 |
| Checking what went TGM to Travel London Following some recent sightings, I have marked up a few more vehicles that transferred from TGM to Travel London, as well as adding a new one for the coaching remains of TGM (don't ask me how that qualifies as an LTSV!). However, I still have 7 other TGM SVs listed. Has anyone seen any of these recently? K814CTF, M541XFY, M544XFY, N366HLA, P338UGH, T575FFC, T576FFC | Tue 04/07/2006, 21:22 |
| Stagecoach in London With Stagecoach in London now sold it may be prudent for any photographers to finalise outstanding photos before the fleet is repainted/re-named etc | Sat 24/06/2006, 13:12 |
| What is Database Admin? Some of you may have seen this as being the last change to edited vehicles. The explaination is related to my ''brilliant'' scheme of spacing the ID numbers allocated to SV records so that subsequent additions could be fitted in while retaining the registration order. This has almost completely failed! It seems that every newly reported vehicle falls where this is no gap in the IDs. I then need to shuffle several vehicles on either side, taking care to include any picture, sighting or allocation records with them. All very tedious! There is a way around this. Just give every SV a sequential ID as it is added. I am currently working on how best to sort records with this in place. The other benefit is that it would allow many more records to be added. Hires and Streets vehicles have been mentioned before. Other companies such as Almex could also go in, perhaps even the Dial-a-Ride minibuses! Note: Posting edited by Thomas Young, 17/06/06, 23:07. | Sat 17/06/2006, 23:06 |
| Possible 'Potential' SVs Back in November last year, I posted a Forum entry under 'Hires & Loans', regarding the reporting of vehicles which may, or may not be SVs. It was suggested that an initial Forum entry be posted to see what transpired. It now seems there could be many such Forum entries. One of the vehicles which prompted me to ask was VO51WDW, which I saw in Oct '05, & which is still being seen at Aldgate, as evidenced by its photo there, being posted 3rd June. The photo is not yet linked to a vehicle rcord, suggesting that its status is still unclear. I always log 'potential' SVs, as I am sure do all other regular contributors. Two such I have noted have been KJ03DXF & KD05PGX, seen at Acton in Feb & March of this year respectively, & both now, very recently having entries in their own right. Is there some means by which any such vehicle records can be created within a listing of say 'Potentials', which could then be converted to full status as further info comes to light ? It would mean that all such information was held centrally, & available to all us ''listers'' ! I know that 'Hires' are also being considered for recording - can the two even be lumped into one grouping ? Any one else, Tom especially, any thoughts on the subject ? John, in Leeds. | Sun 04/06/2006, 13:30 |
| Another First van Seen 26/05/2006 mid afternoon, at a very busy Addington Interchange, where I could hardly stop the car for 2 seconds, was a small red van, carrying First markings - registration believed YH04YNV. Note: Posting edited by John Lloyd-Martin, 28/05/06, 14:14. | Sun 28/05/2006, 13:17 |
| Thanks to Tom Can I just say a big 'Thanks' to Tom for all his hard work in returning the site to a useable state once again, following the unfortunate crash - I am sure all will join me. John (in Leeds) | Sun 28/05/2006, 09:37 |
| Proposed Bus Station audit in May The original post about this was lost. For those of you that did see it, I think the proposal may need to be postponed. Several key ''players'' were not available, and the weather is looking iffy. Sorry. | Thu 25/05/2006, 21:54 |
| Correction to fleet data Its not just LUL that makes mistakes with its SV numbers! I had added the recent Ford Transit Minibus at Finchley as 5705F. A query from a member prompted me to look again at the picture. It should have been 5782F! I have already updated the database and photo/sightings data. Sorry :-| | Sat 25/03/2006, 22:58 |
| London Central list The are some gaps in information which are partly filled as follows L876MVX - Vauxhall 1699cc White diesel M432BGP - Vauxhall 1998cc Red petrol M755CGT - Vauxhall 1686cc Red diesel - for export! N875KGN - Vauxhall 1700cc Red diesel R962CMV - Vauxhall 1799cc Blue petrol. The exact make is not on the website but you can get some info (as above) from www.vehiclelicence.gov.uk Ray | Sat 25/03/2006, 19:25 |
| R-type sweepers. Is this one? An interesting message from the Ipswich Transport Museum relates to a Lacre sweeper they own. This was reportedly new to Tilling before passing to Eastern Counties. The thing is, it carried reg YL6093, which we have listed as being on R38. R38 was at TC (Croydon) which was a Tilling garage. Perhaps someone can shed some light. The ITM's excellent website has a picture. http://www.ipswichtransportmuseum.co.uk/yl6093.htm. Is this what R-types looked like? On the subject of sweepers, I have a short article on their uses in the 1970s that I keep forgetting to post. Apologies to the author concerned. Note: Posting edited by Thomas Young, 25/03/06, 16:20. | Sat 25/03/2006, 16:19 |
| 5664F Dual Personality ? Here is one for the experts - Steve Howard maybe? On the database 5664F is clearly listed as KC04YGM - a red LBSL, Transit 300, mwb, mid-height, 9 seat Minibus - & is photographed as such! On Wednesday 23rd March 2006, a blue & white, Metronet BCV, 85 T280, low-roof Transit left Acton Works & was photographed by myself. The full side-on shot clearly shows the serial 5664F ! The picture is very good quality - on a 9 megapixel camera, I would hope so - and the details 85 T280 are also very clear. Unfortunately I did not record the registration as I was probably busy lining up another shot. Can anyone suggest what this latter vehicle should be? I note from the db, that KC04YJV fits the bill & has no serial shown. Any suggestions welcomed. John L-M (back in Leeds) | Fri 24/03/2006, 10:05 |
| MB Sprinters 5793M-5812M Would it be safe yet to summarise the recent MB Sprinters for LBSL as being a total of 20, numbered 5793M-5812M? This assumes that BN55DXH is in fact 5798M. | Thu 23/03/2006, 13:48 |
| First 06 registered SVs See the fleet data for the first two confirmed 06 reg SVs reported. Pictures of both will be posted shortly. | Thu 23/03/2006, 13:39 |
| Metrobus SVs For those who may not have found it, I came across this today - www.metrobus.co.uk/fleet.php - which apart from listing the full bus fleet, also lists their SVs with allocations. May help someone ! John in Leeds Note: Posting edited by Tom Young, 09/11/06, 21:41. Made into a link. | Wed 15/03/2006, 12:57 |
| 2391L 2391L - NYR391Y. Got to www.ccmv.fotopic.net/p25956146.html to find a shot of this vehicle working for First at Gosport. Just found it! | Thu 09/03/2006, 17:59 |
| Transit Buses KD55MHA & LY05YCO KD55MHA (Silver) first seen at North Greenwich Station (round the back) alongside white bus LY05YCO on 20/1/2006. The silver one (KD55MHA) was running around Eltham today (8/3/06) and the reg seems to fall in amongst other KD55s Any offers? KD is a 1998 diesel while LY is a 2402 diesel Note: Posting edited by Ray, 09/03/06, 09:52. | Wed 08/03/2006, 21:24 |
| Progress to date Hello all. I am very pleased with most aspects of this site, particularly the fact that we have already logged over 4000 sightings. There are plenty of new and old photos still to come, and the forum is picking up. I just wish I had more time to implement some of the further ideas that have been suggested. Special kudos (sorry, no prizes) will go to the reporter of the first confirmed 6000+ numbered or 06 registered SV. Note: Posting edited by Thomas Young, 09/03/06, 10:06. | Wed 08/03/2006, 21:01 |
| Stagecoach SVs on web site Ray entered a note about Stagecoach SVs, with the info apparently taken from their web site. I haven't had a look at this but some of the details appear to be wrong. M809SYL probably refers to M809YSL, while M938SYN could mean M938WSN. I should also mention that I do not include cars such as company director's cars (unless of course they have a logo on!). As the recent picture of the Metrobus Ford Galaxy shows that these are lettered, I will be adding them shortly. Unmarked vans are fair game if they are confirmed as SVs. Note: Posting edited by Thomas Young, 06/03/06, 12:27. | Mon 06/03/2006, 12:26 |
| Logging sightings - bit of a drag I have today had to do my first bulk manual inputting of sightings, and I now realise it is a bit of a drag doing them one at a time. So, thanks again to those who have endured the process and pushed our total up to almost 4000. There may be a way to improve the design, and I am open to suggestions. | Sat 04/03/2006, 00:34 |
| Possible Metrobus Transit at Eltham Whilst speaking to the Metrobus crew of their newish Ford Galaxy GU05 HNA, at Eltham on 23.02.06, they referred to another vehicle with them. I took this to be a white Transit T219PBP, & photographed it. I have so far been unable to locate this as an S/V, & of course unable to re-confirm with the crew that this was their vehicle. The Galaxy is based at Polhill, as I believe was the Transit. Perhaps if anyone - Ray maybe - is around that area, or Eltham Bus Station, & sees anything of this vehicle, then perhaps they could confirm its status ? When I saw it is was fitted with roof bars & carrying ladders. Cheers. John in Leeds Note: Posting edited by John Lloyd-Martin, 05/03/06, 23:00. | Fri 03/03/2006, 15:28 |
| Arriva Minibus M160 RBH Now used as a rest room apparently. Often parked up at Eltham Bus Station. Rear window sheeted over and some windows blacked out will this now be classed as SV? | Fri 03/03/2006, 10:11 |
| LT Museum Depot Open Weekend 4th & 5th March The Museum Depot open weekend this week has the theme of LT in miniature. However, with the District and Piccadilly lines suspended East of Acton Town on both days, it may be a bit trickier than usual to get to! | Thu 02/03/2006, 23:54 |
| Heritage Commercials magazine I have so far been unable to track down any copies of the March issue of Heritage Commercials magazine (which should contain Part 2 of an article on LT Service Vehicles). If anyone has, or can get, a couple of copies, I would be grateful if they would get in touch. | Thu 23/02/2006, 15:05 |
| Sighting Locations Hi, May I offer a suggestion re recording sighting locations ? As an ''out of towner'' it is handy to use say all 2005 sightings, & sort alphabetically by location, so as to try & establish what potentially might be seen where on a visit. That will produce ''Anytown'', ''near Anytown'' and ''passing Anytown at 5pm'', in three entirely different places on a lengthy list. If I suggested that these were entered with the MAIN location first, ie ''Anytown - near'' and ''Anytown - passing at 5pm'', it would produce a better order, & allow any of us who chooses,to obtain a more meaningful picture of what is seen where. (ie all Anytowns appear together.) It is only a suggestion - shoot me down if you wish ! Regards from Leeds, John L-M | Mon 13/02/2006, 21:13 |
| Re: 3001L Hi, I'm new to the site and have just had a general look round to try and familiarise myself. A good few years ago I came across former LT service vehicle 3001L in use with a builder in Bridport, Dorset. It was still in grey livery complete with fleetnumber. I have a photograph of it somewhere and if anyone is interested in it I will try and find it. I hope to visit the site frequently and will help whereever possible. Chris Platt. | Mon 13/02/2006, 11:13 |
| Mis-read I have noted VO05 NNV at Bricklayers Arms today (10/02/2006). The only similar listing is VO05NNW. Are there two vehicles? | Fri 10/02/2006, 14:15 |
| First Van Seen at New Addington Interchange a small red van with 'First' on side. Only caught part of reg from passing tram ...04 XTL. Ray 07/02/2006 This may be YH04XTL (1400 diesel) which is shown as red on the DVLA website and falls in with YH04VNT seen today Ray 08/03/2006 Note: Posting edited by Ray, 08/03/06, 21:29. Note: Posting edited by Ray, 09/03/06, 09:51. | Tue 07/02/2006, 13:09 |
| Transport Fair at Staines, Sat 11th Feb Dave Bosher is running a Transport Fair at Hythe Centre, Thorpe Road, Staines on Sat 11th Feb from 10.30. A vintage bus service 441C will operate half hourly from Staines station. Collections of service vehicle photos will be on sale. | Sun 05/02/2006, 09:36 |
| Differences between 1456MR and 1457MR As you may have seen from Neil Fraser's comments against the picture of ''1457MR'' on this site, there is some confusion over the later identities of the two Militant master breakdown tenders. I have looked at several pictures and, apart from the different offside mirrors, I noticed that at least one of the pair had its headboard lettering changed to 'LTB Urgent' at some point. Could anyone who has pictures of these vehicles please check which Militant carried this? | Wed 01/02/2006, 11:47 |
| Y732 KAE Thsi arriva van was at Eltham Bus Station 26/01/2006. It is white with Arriva lettering | Thu 26/01/2006, 16:10 |
| Taxi at Canada Water There is often a taxi in the LTB resrved spot at Canada Water. On 20/1/06 the one in use was registered H175 YUL and it carried an 'official' notice in the window. Who are these owned by ? | Sun 22/01/2006, 16:49 |
| 5425V - Registration Query I noticed today that 5425V is shown as regn LK52KAO, but also includes a Note ' or LK52KAU'. On my last trip to London, 15th November '05, I noted at Griffith House LK52KAU (no type), which until now I assumed to be a privately owned vehicle. Has anyone else any info on this vehicle ? Has it been recorded elsewhere with either registation ? Can anyone throw any light on it, please ? | Wed 18/01/2006, 19:50 |
| Scania Artic 2577. Has it left the fleet? Can anyone say when they last saw Scania 2577. It was parked in the Acton lorry yard for a long time but seemed to dissappear about a year ago. | Thu 05/01/2006, 17:45 |
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