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Quite a lot of newly delivered vehicles in LUL livery have been seen over the past few weeks. These have included at least six Toyota Prius cars (following from pioneer 8433T in March) and also six VW Caddy Maxi vans. The latter may be for use as mail vans since five of the six Fiat Doblo Maxi vans were seen leaving Acton Works recently. There are three new three-axle trailers at Acton, all built by Dennison. A curtainsider was new in the spring, while two flatbeds seems to be more recent arrivals. The two flatbeds have different designs of headboard but none of the three appear to carry fleetnumbers. Trailers (and bodies) have not been included on the last few official lists so I am sure our information is out of date. I have just marked as withdrawn several items that have not been reported for a long time. Having said that, I noticed that one of the Cobul box trailers (latterly at Lillie Bridge) is now in the lorry yard at Acton. Nearby is an unidentified box demountable body, resting on the ground (not on its legs) and in use as an electrical waste store. Also unidentified are an LUL Mercedes Sprinter van and Ford Transit Custom van, both parked at the back of the lorry yard with accident damage.
Caddy vans continue to arrive for LUL while another two LUL Prius (one being 8490T - the highest number so far) were in the car park today. Also delivered today were two new Ford Focus cars so perhaps the xx13 reg batch are on their way. (R)
A couple of items from the latest fleetlist. As mentioned by Ray, 8232 is a new Mercedes-Sprinter cherry-picker, seen at Mandela Way and hence most likely a replacement for LBSL Ford Transit 6794F. The fleetlist also shows two more (longer) Sprinter chassis cabs (8185M and 8219M, not yet on the database) but there is no information on what is on them or who uses them.
The three Vauxhall Movano minibuses are numbered 8302V to 8304V, the LUL Toyota Prius is 8433T, while a single Smart car is 8349SM. By the way, the list omitted suffix letters so I can't be sure these are carried on the vehicles in question. LBSL Toyota Yaris '8357T' at Turnpike Lane is meant to be 8416T!
Most fleetnumbers up to 8400 are now in use with just a few gaps, while 8435R is the highest in stock.
Eagle-eyed readers would have noticed that three of the Passenger Data minibuses have passed through BCA recently. It would seem the replacements are KU17WFL, WFO and WFS (the last to be confirmed, as are numbers for all three). Although 6794F was still at Mandela Way today, a possible replacement has arrived in the shape of 8232 ('M' not carried, despite being a Mercedes Sprinter). This is in the blue TfL livery and probably part of the Asset Management Unit. (R)
Little to report: more Arriva cars/vans noted at Norwood and confirmation of the Nissan van noted at Ash Grove being with C.T. Plus (R)
LBSL has at least one new minibus, seen at Chancel Street and presumably for the passenger data fleet. KU17WFO is a Vauxhall Movano in white/blue/red with Buses roundels (as per the recent Toyota Yaris cars), fleetnumber not yet known. Similar KU17WFS was seen near Acton Works in plain white/blue a few weeks ago so may be a second.
Thanks to various vehicle auction companies listing sale items on their websites, we now know that most of the former Emergency Response Unit fleet has been disposed of. Eight of the ten Mercedes-Benz Atego tenders passed through Mannheim Auctions in Coventry earlier this month, as did the two former-BTP Iveco Daily units (KE05JLV and KE05JLX). The fates of Ategos 2592 and 2593 (the pair that carried police livery) are not yet confirmed. A couple of Ford Focus cars from the batch 7691F to 7696F have also departed, slightly earlier than expected. BCA continues to handle most of the vehicles going off lease, and sells them on at their sites in Blackbushe, Birmingham and Derby.
I visited the Ash Grove garage open day yesterday and saw the new LOTS van, now bearing its number 7478F (pictures coming soon). Lurking at the back of the garage was previously unreported Arriva London van WR15VTU. Howvere, looking at photos there was also a red Nissan parked nearby, registered ????HXY. Did anyone see if this was a company vehicle (likely CT Plus if anything)?
The usual new vehicles are still arriving with VW Caddy and Ford Fiesta being prominent. A couple of strangers have been one LUL Toyota Prius and a (possible - awaiting confirmation) new LUL Smart car. (R)
Another week, another dustcart! A seventh new Mercedes Econic refuse collector has been added to the Acton fleet, this being another 2-axle version with NTM bodywork (WO66HFM). Also new are the first SVs in use with 17 registrations. The first of several VW Caddy Maxi crew vans for LUL are 8306VW and 8322VW, while 8324F is a Ford Focus estate, a model not taken for the past three years. Also in LUL livery was a Ford Transit van (LN17JGV), the fleetnumber of which was not recorded.
Two slightly odd bits of news today. Firstly, I have discovered that at least some of the new ERU rescue tenders have interchangeable liveries! See today's photos for more details. Secondly, the fifth Toyota Yaris for LBSL (LO66YSV) has turned up at Turnpike Lane and is numbered 8357T. Fine, apart from the fact that 8357R appeared in January on a Renault Kangoo van...
More news! A sixth Econic dustcart has been seen (3-axle WO66HHS), along with a fifth Toyota Yaris car in LBSL white/blue/red livery (LO66YSV, fleetnumber not yet known). Also added to the database are the first two 17-reg vehicles, both being Volkswagens seen at the dealers.
Two rather surprising bits of news this week. Firstly, another pair of Econic dustcarts have been delivered for LUL. WO66HFL is 2-axle, WO66HHT is 3-axle, and they appear to have a different make of bodywork to the trio delivered at the beginning of the year. I presume most of the existing fleet of dustcarts are being replaced. Secondly, a batch of four Toyota Yaris cars has been delivered to replace the un-numbered LBSL Ford Fiesta and Toyota Prius cars in south London (split between Morden/Kingston and Eltham). The new cars are numbered (8418T to 8420T noted so far) and carry the white/blue livery with red Buses roundels. Oddly, but somehow logically, they also have a red stripe, making them look very much like LUL vehicles.
The new ERU trucks are now entering service. I wonder what will happen to the old Mercedes Ategos, since there is probably not much of a second-hand market for fire/rescue tenders. I have photos covering most of the recent developments and I hope to make a start on publishing some at the weekend. I will also update the vehicle database, although Ray and now Steve are doing a great job at this so far.
New MAN lorry LV66XYD is confirmed as being a demountable. It was seen in the yard at Acton Works with dropside body DB10 fitted.
Most of the new batch of Emergency Response Unit tenders were seen at Acton Works today, and I've added an initial photo with more to come. As expected, the tenders are Volvo FL lorries with JDC bodywork. What was not expected was the re-appearance of fleetnumbers, the batch being numbered 2603 to 2612. The reasoning behind this is not known, although I think I know why the number 2603 has seemingly been reused. WX57NPV was a Mercedes-Benz Actros tractor unit new in January 2008 and carrying fleetnumber 2603. However, official fleetlists referred to it only by registration number, as was the case for subsequent additions. I guess the decision to stop applying fleetnumbers was made at the beginning of 2008 and that 2603 was allocated to WX57NPV and then cancelled but had already been applied to the vehicle. When I add the new tenders to the database I will probably have to move WX57NPV to the un-numbered series.
Lots of Volkswagens are coming into stock at present, mainly Caddy Maxi crew vans but also a few Transporter crew vans and minibuses. A couple of new Renault Kangoo vans have also been reported (8344R and 8348R).
News today is all about the 'heavy' fleet. New MAN lorry LV66XYC is now in use from Acton Works in LUL white/blue/red and it appears to be a fixed (ie not demountable) flatbed. No further reports of LV66XYD yet. Three new Mercedes Econic dustcarts have been delivered in LUL livery. 2-axle LO66ZRE was illustrated last week and has now been joined by 3-axle LO66ZRC and LO66ZRD. A fourth Econic dustcart (HX16FYP) is in white with roundels but most likely to be a short-term hire. Finally, the first pair of new ERU tenders are now at Acton but no details are available yet.
I have made a start on catching up with recent developments, adding the first ten photos and a load of database updates.
I'm sorry about the spurious item that appeared under fleet news yesterday. There was a security breach, so to speak, although fortunately there was no other damage done. Quite by chance I have today activated SSL on the LTSV.COM domain. You can now access this website through https://www.ltsv.com, which should stop any messages about insecure log-ins. Please let me know if you come across anything unexpected as a result of either of these events.
I should also apologise for the lack of updates recently. There is not much going on, or at least not much being reported to me, and I am also going to busy with other things for at least another week or so.
A big thank you to Ray who has managed to get hold of a new central fleetlist. I've added most of the new vehicles (39 so far with a few more yet to do) and there are of course loads of vehicles for which we now know the numbers. Once I have finished the updates I will provide some analysis. And catch up with the withdrawals that Ray has traced through the auctions. And add some of Ray's photographs.....!
A set of thirty new photos has just been uploaded. Sorry for the delay. I started work on them in early April but only managed to write the last few captions last night!
Just some admin messages today, although I am in the process of preparing a large batch of photos.
Firstly, two things about e-mails. I had a few days away earlier in the month and I have hardly been able to catch up since. Some e-mails may not have been responded to yet but I will get round to them all eventually. Secondly, and slightly contradictory to the previous, I have been made aware that some e-mails sent to me are not being received. If a reply is expected and you do not get one within a week or so, it might be safest to assume that I did not receive it. In such cases, please send the e-mail again, as I would rather get something twice than not at all.
Users logging-in to LTSV using the latest version of Mozilla will have noticed a new warning about the website being unsecure. There is a drive to get websites moved to secure connections (indicated by a https prefix to the URL), especially ones which may transmit personal information. My web hosting company (who have just hiked up their prices yet again) can probably provide the required secure connections and looking into this is on my to-do list! If you have any problems, concerns or suggestions about this, please e-mail me at tom 'at' ltsv.com.
Finally, many thanks to Ray and Steve for helping keep LTSV up to date, particularly with the new vehicles.
Tom has not managed to give an update lately, in fact he is now away for most of this week. He intends to add some photos and rectify the mess Steve and I have made next weekend. (R)
Another twenty photos are now available to view. They include the first four from a small collection of 1960s photos recently made available, and the first views of the new Emergency Response Unit tenders in service. The vehicle database has also been updated with withdrawals and a few corrections.
Twenty new photos have been uploaded, these covering the new ERU rescue tenders, the LBSL Toyota Yaris cars and various other recent additions. I still have stacks of excellent photos to put up when I get time. With the help of Ray and Steve, the database has been updated with all the reported deliveries. I will have a look at the withdrawals and other changes shortly.
Good and bad news today. The bad news is that there will be a delay to the next batch of photos (which will include more views of the new ERUs). I am having to do quite a bit of overtime at work at present and my free-time is thus minimal. I have no shortage of material though, especially as another CD from Derek arrived yesterday with over 200 recent SV photos on it. The good news is that the fleetdata will be kept up to date since Ray has kindly agreed to take on more of an editorial role. He has been doing lots of historical data inputting lately, but now I have given him rights to add and edit current vehicles as well. Two arisings from this. Firstly, please bear in mind that the back-end of LTSV is bit arcane and un-user-friendly. While Ray gets to grips with this, some items may appear differently to the 'norm'. Feel free to let me know if you spot anything really odd. Secondly, if you are e-mailing news about current vehicles, please copy Ray in. Let me know if you don't have his e-mail address.
One photo of the new ERU tenders has been added. More soon.
Another ten photos have been added, nine of which are of recent deliveries. A few database updates are needed but will have to be done another day.
The vehicle database has been brought up to date.
Four more sets of Vehicle Record Cards have just been uploaded to the archive, these covering vehicles numbered from 151D to 350X. To access and download these PDFs, head to the Articles page, or click here.
A batch of 11 photos has just been uploaded, including four of model service vehicles. The database will be updated before the end of the weekend.