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Derek Everson
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Guildford Garage

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Details: This photo illustrates two problems I have in maintaining the database on LTSV. The first is a design 'feature', whereby vehicles can only have a status of Active or Withdrawn, where withdrawn means 'no longer current'. A lot of our information comes from vehicle licensing checks (Ray has done thousands of these, for which I am very grateful). If a vehicle is shown as being delicensed or SORN (declared as being off the road), then it is marked on LTSV as being withdrawn. However, it might still be owned/held by the company but just not in use. A future upgrade to the site will include an intermediate status to remedy this. The other problem is that most companies do not provide fleet information but, when they do, the information is often inaccurate or out of date.

Shown here is Volkswagen Transporter minibus RY05AEZ at Guildford Garage on 11th October 2017. This was one of several minibuses from the Tellings Golden-Miller airport fleet which were transferred to Arriva bus operations in 2014. This one gained 'paper' fleetnumber VF139 with Arriva Southern Counties. A licensing check in spring 2017 showed that it was SORN and had an expired MOT. It was duly marked as being withdrawn, but that autumn we received a list from the company which showed it as still being in stock. So I de-withdrew it! It was parked with some clearly out-of-use buses when Derek found it.

Ironically the other service vehicle visible in this photo also suffered from premature withdrawal! Beyond the buses is the back end of a Ford Transit minibus, believed to be LS06YCR. This was another former TGM vehicle, but it went to Dartford. It was then stolen in 2015 and reportedly written off. Naturally I marked the database entry as being withdrawn! It was evidently recovered though, as Arriva were listing it again by summer 2016, albeit showing the allocation as Harlow. A later list did have it as being at Guildford so perhaps it did work from both. Anyway, with two minibuses off the road, can anyone say what the current crew ferry vehicle at Guildford is? It might be HT05YDB (another ex TGM), but that has not been reported for over 4 years....

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